thank you, Karen, for reminding us of the point of the article- these guys have been slandered (or that is certainly how it appears). Neighbors looking out for each other is one thing, but let's resist the temptation to give in to gossip and heresay- it is poisonous. and, on the other note...raise your hand if you miss truck farmers bringing produce down the block and a milkman delivering dairy products before dawn. I sure do. I guess the Schwann's truck and these folks are the next best thing-
Good job on the part of the coaches in giving the athletes a heads up about the possibility of big cats on emerald and on the part of the athletes in behaving appropriately. Sounds like all parties went on their merry way without incident- 'Don't go onto emerald alone and don't blow it when or if you encounter one of the feline inhabitants' is the take home lesson so nicely demonstrated here. Now why would we ask the DOW to "move or kill" the cats? That is straight up crazy talk. We don't ask that sharks be "moved or killed" so we can surf and dive without seeing them...we take reasonable precautions and accept the risks involved in the activities we ELECT to pursue- another important take home lesson.
This is what south routt is really about- young people who work hard against tremendous odds and believe it matters to give your best, even when you are not the "winner". Thank you for including this article and giving these guys some well deserved attention- These are the folks that make us proud to be Oak Cretians!
I am not thrilled about ponying up more money for utilities and I am glad there was active dissent on the board over this issue. But I also know that utility rates should have been raised in regular increments over the past decade and were not. Our town was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt just 4 years ago and on the brink of disaster. The board has scrimped and scraped to get this town back in the black over the past 3 years and they have suceeded. I think one would be hard pressed to find many examples of frivolous spending (there are a few I'd agree)- but, the good news is that the budget has not yet been finalized and you still have time to offer your cost saving ideas! In fact, you could apply for Fisher's seat and have a vote!
I, too, have read the comp plan and the land use code. I have also heard most of the proposed changes and the discussions around them. Appropriately, there is much room for interpretation. I, too, think Steinberg et al have a tough row to hoe to demonstrate how their proposal will meet the guidelines. The point I have failed at making is that the annexation process is designed to allow anyone to pay their money and make the attempt. Steinberg was present through much of the last annexation bid (recall that his land was part of one of the many configurations Heather tried to pitch) and he is, I'm sure, acutely aware of where it fell short (largely around the issues abe has raised above). My thought is that he is working hard to address the concerns raised then- the planning commission and Board recognize this effort and have granted his group approval to move foward with their planning. In so doing, they have also put the community to task to pay attention, get educated and participate in the upcoming process. While I personally would rather not see this annexation occur while the town struggles to support its aging infrastructure and residential lots sit empty and derelict, I think this group has done a good job of respecting the process. Again, there is much to be learned here.
Scott- as per usual...what are you on about?! when it comes to Oak Creek you have too many swirling and twirling agendas to follow. The Comp is not now, nor has it ever been, a binding document. Similar to the land use code it is hugely flexible and dependant on the ability of those seeking changes/ approval to make a coherent and legitimate case before the commission and/or board. As a bit of constructive criticism, this is something you continue to struggle with. So far, Steinberg is on a roll with his project- he is playing by the rules, has clearly followed previous debates, is addressing previous concerns and has refrained from throwing tantrums or resorting to vindictive blather. It remains to be seen where this will go- but there is certainly something to be learned here.
abe- exactly how does this annexation proposal go "against almost all" of the recommendations in the current comp plan and/or land use code? this is a real question, by the way. honestly, have you been to a SINGLE meeting or discussion regarding the new comp plan and land use code? Or a SINGLE meeting regarding this proposed annexation? you sound like an real whiner here("maybe once you rewrite them they will be more to your liking"? wah-wah-wah) which is too bad because I suspect from your degree of outrage you may actually have had a point or two worth hearing over the past 2 years of work on this. abe- if you want to be involved in Oak Creek decision making, you'll have to get with the way things happen here (ie. notices at the PO)- sorry we are not as sophisticated as you are, but that's how we roll. hopefully, we will all reap the benefit of your input in the coming months...
wow. there we go, the hatespeakers are finally starting to really out themselves. stop it already with the brutal chemicals- i think we've all had enough of your poison.
Honestly...I am completely lost as to why we should be outraged at a lesson plan suggesting students write a letter to the President of the United States- I know I was given this type of assignment more than once in school (I believe one such time was on a college entrance exam). Building a problem/ solution writing exercise into his address to students seems pretty appropriate to me. Isn't teaching our youth to actively participate in our democracy one of the key roles of public education? When President Bush addressed the students of America he all but bragged about being a C student and still attending an Ivy League- nothing short of a slap in the face for those of us far less privileged students who worked so hard to get the grades to get the scholarships to get the education to allow us to acheive our goals. (That run on is for you Kibler (-: ). As much as I despised everything Bush stood for and found his voice to be like nails on a chalkboard, I never once considered not playing his addresses to our nation in my classroom- (and students were nearly always asked to write in response). Seemed like a pretty obvious curriculum choice to me. The President is the President and should be given respect as such by teachers in our classrooms.
Right on South Routt Superintendant Mader for making an educated and patriotic decision! Spoken like a true leader.
Teachers must be free to teach and, hopefully, they will encourage all of their students to listen to the words of our American leaders and think critically about what they hear.
This is OUR president speaking to our young people about being all they can be to help our great country- What parent in their right mind would choose to keep their youngster from hearing these words of wisdom from a very accomplished scholar?
'the cost of censoring what our children learn is children who are no more intelligent than we are' a great guiding mantra for all educators and parents.
Family struggles to keep tortilla business afloat after accusation
thank you, Karen, for reminding us of the point of the article- these guys have been slandered (or that is certainly how it appears). Neighbors looking out for each other is one thing, but let's resist the temptation to give in to gossip and heresay- it is poisonous.
and, on the other note...raise your hand if you miss truck farmers bringing produce down the block and a milkman delivering dairy products before dawn. I sure do. I guess the Schwann's truck and these folks are the next best thing-
November 21, 2009 at 6:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Steamboat runners see mountain lion on Emerald
Good job on the part of the coaches in giving the athletes a heads up about the possibility of big cats on emerald and on the part of the athletes in behaving appropriately. Sounds like all parties went on their merry way without incident- 'Don't go onto emerald alone and don't blow it when or if you encounter one of the feline inhabitants' is the take home lesson so nicely demonstrated here.
Now why would we ask the DOW to "move or kill" the cats? That is straight up crazy talk. We don't ask that sharks be "moved or killed" so we can surf and dive without seeing them...we take reasonable precautions and accept the risks involved in the activities we ELECT to pursue- another important take home lesson.
November 13, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Soroco football remains happy with 8-man decision
This is what south routt is really about- young people who work hard against tremendous odds and believe it matters to give your best, even when you are not the "winner". Thank you for including this article and giving these guys some well deserved attention- These are the folks that make us proud to be Oak Cretians!
October 26, 2009 at 9:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Oak Creek OKs annexation process
I am not thrilled about ponying up more money for utilities and I am glad there was active dissent on the board over this issue. But I also know that utility rates should have been raised in regular increments over the past decade and were not.
Our town was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt just 4 years ago and on the brink of disaster. The board has scrimped and scraped to get this town back in the black over the past 3 years and they have suceeded.
I think one would be hard pressed to find many examples of frivolous spending (there are a few I'd agree)- but, the good news is that the budget has not yet been finalized and you still have time to offer your cost saving ideas! In fact, you could apply for Fisher's seat and have a vote!
October 24, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Oak Creek OKs annexation process
I, too, have read the comp plan and the land use code. I have also heard most of the proposed changes and the discussions around them. Appropriately, there is much room for interpretation.
I, too, think Steinberg et al have a tough row to hoe to demonstrate how their proposal will meet the guidelines. The point I have failed at making is that the annexation process is designed to allow anyone to pay their money and make the attempt.
Steinberg was present through much of the last annexation bid (recall that his land was part of one of the many configurations Heather tried to pitch) and he is, I'm sure, acutely aware of where it fell short (largely around the issues abe has raised above).
My thought is that he is working hard to address the concerns raised then- the planning commission and Board recognize this effort and have granted his group approval to move foward with their planning. In so doing, they have also put the community to task to pay attention, get educated and participate in the upcoming process.
While I personally would rather not see this annexation occur while the town struggles to support its aging infrastructure and residential lots sit empty and derelict, I think this group has done a good job of respecting the process. Again, there is much to be learned here.
October 24, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Oak Creek OKs annexation process
Scott- as per usual...what are you on about?! when it comes to Oak Creek you have too many swirling and twirling agendas to follow.
The Comp is not now, nor has it ever been, a binding document. Similar to the land use code it is hugely flexible and dependant on the ability of those seeking changes/ approval to make a coherent and legitimate case before the commission and/or board. As a bit of constructive criticism, this is something you continue to struggle with.
So far, Steinberg is on a roll with his project- he is playing by the rules, has clearly followed previous debates, is addressing previous concerns and has refrained from throwing tantrums or resorting to vindictive blather. It remains to be seen where this will go- but there is certainly something to be learned here.
October 23, 2009 at 10:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Oak Creek OKs annexation process
abe- exactly how does this annexation proposal go "against almost all" of the recommendations in the current comp plan and/or land use code? this is a real question, by the way.
honestly, have you been to a SINGLE meeting or discussion regarding the new comp plan and land use code? Or a SINGLE meeting regarding this proposed annexation?
you sound like an real whiner here("maybe once you rewrite them they will be more to your liking"? wah-wah-wah) which is too bad because I suspect from your degree of outrage you may actually have had a point or two worth hearing over the past 2 years of work on this.
abe- if you want to be involved in Oak Creek decision making, you'll have to get with the way things happen here (ie. notices at the PO)- sorry we are not as sophisticated as you are, but that's how we roll. hopefully, we will all reap the benefit of your input in the coming months...
October 23, 2009 at 8:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Our View: A lost opportunity
wow. there we go, the hatespeakers are finally starting to really out themselves.
stop it already with the brutal chemicals- i think we've all had enough of your poison.
September 10, 2009 at 10:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Routt County schools prepare for Obama speech
Honestly...I am completely lost as to why we should be outraged at a lesson plan suggesting students write a letter to the President of the United States- I know I was given this type of assignment more than once in school (I believe one such time was on a college entrance exam).
Building a problem/ solution writing exercise into his address to students seems pretty appropriate to me. Isn't teaching our youth to actively participate in our democracy one of the key roles of public education?
When President Bush addressed the students of America he all but bragged about being a C student and still attending an Ivy League- nothing short of a slap in the face for those of us far less privileged students who worked so hard to get the grades to get the scholarships to get the education to allow us to acheive our goals. (That run on is for you Kibler (-: ).
As much as I despised everything Bush stood for and found his voice to be like nails on a chalkboard, I never once considered not playing his addresses to our nation in my classroom-
(and students were nearly always asked to write in response). Seemed like a pretty obvious curriculum choice to me.
The President is the President and should be given respect as such by teachers in our classrooms.
September 8, 2009 at 9:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Routt County schools prepare for Obama speech
Right on South Routt Superintendant Mader for making an educated and patriotic decision! Spoken like a true leader.
Teachers must be free to teach and, hopefully, they will encourage all of their students to listen to the words of our American leaders and think critically about what they hear.
This is OUR president speaking to our young people about being all they can be to help our great country- What parent in their right mind would choose to keep their youngster from hearing these words of wisdom from a very accomplished scholar?
'the cost of censoring what our children learn is children who are no more intelligent than we are' a great guiding mantra for all educators and parents.
September 7, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )