The Last Stand
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On Soroco student still in ICU
November 12, 2008 at 8:34 a.m.
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My post was not meant to cause drama. Many of the meetings during the chaos of the police force had shown that the Chief was not afraid to spend our money. i.e. when we hired the new judge, he insisted we purchase a new robe at over 100$ until people rightfully let him know that the previous judge did not have any sentimental value in the current robe. This was just one example. We (the town) did purchase items for them that can be argued from either side but now we don't have a police force and we have plenty of police accessories around- can we sell them for money? I don't know.
I apologize that I misposted the taser purchase.
I know a lot of people in OC that are not barflys LTFO and we all have families and jobs so eat it. This has nothing to do with the bar, so PLEASE find something new to post about OC. My point there was that many of these family's point of view is expressed in their relationship with business owners and they are represented in the concern of safety. However, most of the folks I know have young kids and protect them communally by having/ sharing adult supervision.
I think that your view, Dave, has been pretty obvious with your snide remarks and expressions throughout your time with the board. You really have never been approachable or friendly, and all I have ever seen shine through is your bad attitude, so sorry, but maybe you need to take an honest look at your place in the future of OC. I applaud you for being part of the community and spending your time serving, but I won't vote you in again. It is clear that you, like Chief Russ, think that most people in Oak Creek are no good.
And, no, I did not submit my letter of interest in serving on the police task force. And I most certainly did not attend the budget meeting, that you are correct. But I am not in the dark my friend. I attend matters of the town when I can.
FYI, I never whined about the water rates going up, I was just making a point that we are spending our money where it is necessary Dave. That was all.
I personally think the money used to head our police force could be used finding a decent town manager, like Hayden has. He has done amazing things with that town. Getting in tax dollars, in my opinion would open up our town to getting the necessary amenities we deserve and need.
finally ltfo:
Why in the world am I headed to a cold, watery dark grave exactly? Please explain. Take a minute of your day to tell me, exactly why I am apparently going to die in a dark grave in the water? I honestly cannot believe you would write such an insolent thing. Maybe it is because I don't think Dave Fisher is a good representative of OC?
On Soroco student still in ICU
November 10, 2008 at 11:53 a.m.
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Why don't you go to the meetings that have been organized about what to do regarding a police presence? They have been going on now since October. Call David Bonfiglio. Everyone in OC wants there to be safety measures and to be protected. Do you attend the board meetings? As you would know, the town's water rate is about to see an increase to pay for the new position in the water district as required by state regs. Paying for a police staff that was corrupt, bored and not meeting the townsfolk half way was money wasted, as you can now see. They purchased bullet proof vests, new attire, tasers, the list goes on… with money that the town didn't have. If you don't think the board is representing your interests with their decisions (to accept their resignations, or to set up a group who will help determine the future of our law enforcement) then go the meetings, or run yourself when a position comes up. Many people don't have the money to live in Steamboat (and don't want to) so they pay less to live in south routt. Our taxes could increase to pay for enforcement so determining WHAT enforcement is needed is a step in the affordable direction.
It is an awful circumstance that happened but guess what? In Steamboat HS in the 90's when I went to school there, someone shot his friend in the foot with a gun. There are plenty of police around there… Also get your hands on the email sent out from a father of a SSHS boy who is in rehab after overdosing on pharmaceuticals- my point? NOT all accidents can be prevented. This hasn't happened since Russ and Erik left, so it isn't happening everyday. Accident… get on the “task force” and make a difference oldskool.
On Ron Pollard: Socialism coming
October 31, 2008 at 3:47 p.m.
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well then emery bear, we have nothing else to talk about. Palin is where I stop. She's a freaking nut case, in my opinion. Have a good day.
On Ron Pollard: Socialism coming
October 31, 2008 at 3:43 p.m.
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agreed Matthew. they both have their hands in the money. but that is how the game is played these days. I'd still rather see jobs coming back to the US and Sarah Palin just ruined McCain's chances… even the die hard republicans secretly (and not so much so) wonder what the hell he was thinking with that choice. The choice of no choice. I've voted republican before but hell no would I EVER put a pentecostal in the White House. Seals the deal. Lesser of 2 evils
On Ron Pollard: Socialism coming
October 31, 2008 at 3:37 p.m.
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And your sources don't include the money John McCain received from those working for Freddie and Fannie… so we can disagree all day long. There isn't anything they can set in stone because recieving $ from companies isn't how the money is coming in… it is individuals. I am pretty sure McCain is still receiving $ from lobbyists…
“And other current McCain campaign staffers were the lobbyists receiving shares of that money. According to the Senate Lobbying Database, the lobbying firm of Charlie Black, one of McCain's top aides, made at least $820,000 working for Freddie Mac from 1999 to 2004. The McCain campaign's vice-chair Wayne Berman and its congressional liaison John Green made $1.14 million working on behalf of Fannie Mae for lobbying firm Ogilvy Government Relations. Green made an additional $180,000 from Freddie Mac. Arther B. Culvahouse Jr., the VP vetter who helped John McCain select Sarah Palin, earned $80,000 from Fannie Mae in 2003 and 2004, while working for lobbying and law firm O'Melveny & Myers LLP. In addition, Politico reports that at least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, pocketing at least $12.3 million over the last nine years.”
Whats the point, really. We all hear what we want.
On Ron Pollard: Socialism coming
October 31, 2008 at 3:25 p.m.
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Matter of which record? It really is pointless to discuss. you think obama is a liar and everyone that supports him is too. I think McCain is a washed out, lying, cheating, gambling, unintelligent senator who makes terrible choices (Palin), is outwardly rude and impolite and frequently goes against his word and has no new ideas for anything. Every respectable politician has endorsed him while the rest of the republicans slander and cry.
he republicans did all this to themselves… and the only thing they have to say for it is “socialism”! I think we'll be better off after Obama… but if I am wrong, I am wrong. It's a choice I have already made.
On Ron Pollard: Socialism coming
October 31, 2008 at 2:26 p.m.
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The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from “directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac” for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list - using figures from the Federal Election Commission - shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000.
Emery Bear, you should read up before you spew up.
On Ron Pollard: Socialism coming
October 31, 2008 at 10:45 a.m.
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I would just like to put in 2 cents about the ignorance of Tai Chi's outlook on the Muslim religion and how he attempts to exonerate it from the aforementioned “non-violent” Christian religion. Just because Christians aren't currently running around “beheading” people, doesn't mean they didn't do it for centuries. Remember the Crusades? Countries grow at their own pace, and it takes an intelligent look at the history of the world to see that. China was much more advanced than the European countries in the 1400's, with their expertise in nautical exploration, invention of black powder, extensive libraries…. Now look at them restrict their constituents. If you believe that Muslims exist now because they were converted by the sword, and now wish for all to be muslims, you are showing your infinite ignorance. The people you are referring to are extremists, and EVERY religion has them. How many murders and other sins have been “in the name of God”? And from your 2 time zones away, how dare you call people voting for Obama stupid? How does that make you intelligent whatsoever?
Also, Mr. Pollard, I find it interesting that as a realtor, I find your profession to be nothing but a redistribution of wealth. “Hardworking, honest”… Guess what, back when the folks were living CLEAN lives, there were no real estate agents, in facts, there was no inflation of prices of homes, greedy agents behind those prices taking their piece of the pie and assisting people in finding their American Dream. I know, this seems like a lash out, but since the professional real estate agent can't, legally, advise people as to what they can afford, or get involved in their loans, or really take any responsibility at all, it leaves one to wonder how you didn't have a part in the current economic crisis, insider trading homes like stocks in the stock market, driving up the prices and flipping them while you take your deserved 5 or 6%… no wonder you are so scared of having taxes taken from your “hard earned money” give me a break.
Maybe you, sir have some repenting to do for the part YOU played in the current state of affairs.
On Police defend use of Taser
July 23, 2008 at 1:25 p.m.
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Is it lawful for OCPD to stop by your house? Why are they allowed on my property? What are my rights?
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On Soroco student still in ICU
November 12, 2008 at 12:56 p.m.
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I said, get on the task force because you asked what you can do to override the business owners. I doubt there is a way to override them without attending meetings or getting yourself on the agenda. sorry if you took it the wrong way or perhaps i suggested it the wrong way.