The Last Stand
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On Rob Douglas: Horrific crime rekindles debate
(anonymous)
May 9, 2008 at 7:44 a.m.
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There are, at least, two majors issues with the legislation.
All of the new deterrent studies, as well as the very strong defenses of them, tell us that imposing the death penalty on child rapists may very well save many innocent lives.
However, if child rape and child rape/murder have the same possible sanction, execution, will the legislation give an added incentive to child rapists to murder, when it doesn't, necessarily, increase the severity of sanction over child rape?
If you believe in deterrence (disincentive), you must also believe in positive incentives. Some rapists may see nothing to lose and something to gain by eliminating the witness.
Some states, like Louisiana, have had these laws for quite some time. It would seem important to see what they have found.
On Rob Douglas: Horrific crime rekindles debate
(anonymous)
May 9, 2008 at 7:19 a.m.
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It appears that Mr. Douglas has been duped.
The 123 released from death row after innocence was proven is a blatant fraud, easily uncovered by the rare act of fact checking.
Possibly, 25 actual innocents have been released from death row, or 0.3% of those sentneced to death after 1973. All of those were released after posy conviction review. That's a 99.7% success rate in actual guilty findings and 100% of the actual innocent were released. Is there a more accurate criminal justice snaction? Unlikely.
Furthermore, innocents are more at risk without the death penalty.
Living murderers, in prison, after release or escape or after our failures to incarcerate them, are much more likely to harm and murder, again, than are executed murderers.
No knowledgeable and honest party questions that the death penalty has the most extensive due process protections in US criminal law.
Therefore, actual innocents are more likely to be sentenced to life imprisonment and more likely to die in prison serving under that sentence, that it is that an actual innocent will be executed.
16 recent studies, inclusive of their defenses, find for death penalty deterrence.
A surprise? No.
Life is preferred over death. Death is feared more than life.
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On Rob Douglas: Horrific crime rekindles debate (anonymous)
May 9, 2008 at 4:24 p.m.
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Dukebets:
I sent some fact checking material to Mr. Douglas' email.
He is wrong and he just has to confirm it.
For you: 1. “Case Histories: A Review of 24 Individuals Released from Death Row”, Florida Commission on Capital Cases, 6/20/02, Revised 9/10/02 at http://www.floridacapitalcases.state.fl….
83% error rate in “innocent” claims.
2. “Is 'the innocence list' an appropriate name?”, 1/19/03
frank green, times-dispatch staff writer
http://www.stopcapitalpunishment.org/cov…
Dieter admits they don't discern between legal innocence and actual innocence. One of Dieter's funnier quotes;”The prosecutor, perhaps, or Dudley Sharp, perhaps, thinks they're still guilty because there was evidence of their guilt, but that's a subjective judgment.” Yep, “evidence of guilt”, can't you see why Dieter would think they were innocent? And that's how the DPIC works.
3. critique of dpic list (“innocence:freed from death row”), Ward Campbell, http://www.prodeathpenalty.com/DPIC.htm
70% error rate in claims of innocence.
3. “The Death Penalty Debate in Illinois”, JJKinsella,6/2000, http://www.dcba.org/brief/junissue/2000/…
70% error rate in claims of innocence.
4.the death penalty - all innocence issues, Dudley Sharp
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2006/03/20/…
Origins of “innocence” fraud, and review of many innocence issues
5. “Bad List”, Ramesh Ponnuru, National Review, 9/16/02
www.nationalreview.com/advance/advance09…
How bad is DPIC?
6. “Not so Innocent”, By Ramesh Ponnuru,National Review, 10/1/02
www.nationalreview.com/ponnuru/ponnuru10…
DPIC from bad to worse.